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claudia celestial girl
07-10-2007, 12:59 PM
Originally I posted this on the other board. On, like, 4th time listening to the audiobook, I suddenly focussed on Alina's story. I can't believe how many readings it takes for me to catch on. Four things hit me this time around. It might be a stretch, but here goes:

At the end of DF, JB suggested that Mac couldn't be sure that the Lord Master had killed Alina. And someone below mentioned that Malluce had to "disappear" because of someone's orders that he couldn't dare refuse... I've been wondering about the following things: a) nobody could identify Alina's boyfriend at Trinity College, but there were these photos of Alina and The Lord Master in the collection. Somebody took those pictures of the two of them together, and it couldn't have been any of Alina's friends because they couldn't tell Mac what he looked like. Might the person who took the pictures have been someone The Lord Master knew??? b) If there is a second person who the Lord Master was working with (The Dark King???), that could be the person who had Alina killed and/or who Malluce was reporting to. (OK, I know, It's hard to imagine the Dark King handling a camera and taking the photos with Alina & boyfriend, but maybe it was an associate of Darrocs.) I'm just saying that, there might have been a second man, someone over the Lord Master, or tangential to the Lord Master.

in a reply to this posting, someone suggested Mael (from Immortal). I totally forgot about him! :th_duhhhh-vi: Does anybody know how Queen Abby punished him?


(2) Alina must have been onto something. Mac says that Alina was VERY smart, and was a literature major - someone who wanted to get a Ph.D. in English lit. We know that both Alina and Mac are Sidhe-seers and Nulls, so Alina must have started seeing Fae once she got to Dublin, and started investigating what that was all about. I suspect that Alina probably realized that she was adopted, and that she and Mac were being protected. I also suspect that it was Alina who first started searching for the Sinsar Dubh (that English lit interest), and then she met the Lord Master, who used her powers to help him find it. I think that with Alina's help they did find it - and that he (or the second man) has it now (in the car?). Once she was no longer useful to them, once they got the Sinsar Dubh, they killed her. But if there is another player besides the Lord Master, then it might have been the second man who killed Alina. But Alina wrote everything down in her journal(s), and eventually I'm convinced, that Mac will find them.

(3) There is a part, in DF, where Mac gets a real imprint of Alina: how confused Alina was, how Alina became 'tempered in Dublin's forge', & learned hard lessons. I thought that was really powerful. Can you imagine what Alina must have been feeling?

(4) in the description of Barron's Books and Baubles, it mentions that there is a big mural on the ceiling. Might that mural give some clues about the origin of JB???? I keep thinking that JB was 'spawned in a cataclysm of nature' just as Mac first suspected when she met him for the first time. And in the Harry Potter books, J.K. Rowling does that a lot - the chocolate frog cards have lots of information that you would never guess was important.

OK. That the end of my crazy ramblings.

Kelli Jo
07-10-2007, 01:11 PM
I don't think that the Lord Master killed Alina. I think you are on the right path here. I think there is someone not only above the LM but also woking alongside the LM. I think the ruling to kill Alina came from the one above but was carried out by the LM's accomplice. I think the LM truly did have feelings for Alina and either tried to warn her or tried to force her away somehow and that is how she found out what he was. Then came the frantic call to Mac then ultimately her death in that alley. Mac has to find that journal so we can get Alina's whole story here!

Debbie_D
07-10-2007, 01:21 PM
If I remember correctly, Mac did find the journals along with the pictures in the house. They were missing from her pockets after the fight and flight back to JBs.

Kelli Jo
07-10-2007, 01:28 PM
Mac found Alina's planner and the photos, but alas no journals...yet.

Debbie_D
07-10-2007, 02:42 PM
oh right. thanks!

Cheryle
07-10-2007, 11:02 PM
I agree with you Claudia, I don't think that Darroc (the Lord Master) killed Alina either that is just to convienient.

I am dying to see what Alina wrote in the journals.

Deja
07-22-2007, 05:31 PM
My boyfriend thinks Alina is alive and being held captive as a bargaining chip in the end before the big battle. WE both feel JB is related to Aedan in some way. He also thinks that the noise in JB's crypt is the last Vengence before Aedan who has lost his mind either before he was freed from serving the Dark king or "because of" his service to the Unseelie king.. what do You think?

alba
07-22-2007, 06:12 PM
Claudia i also forgot about Mael I do not remeber what happend to him if he did get punnished or not will have to look.
Going though the books again came across a name that might be of interest Dageus had an affair with an attorney called Katherine O,MALLY :th_thud:
IS she related to the O,mally in DF my guess is yes.
kind of out there but did she conceive a child by dageus??????
Another thing Queen ordered Adam to Heal Dageus he did not want to because he said it would cost him.may be some of his powers just like JB
Silvan and the Queen Renegotiated the terms of the compact he also gave his wedding ring (gold) to seal the pact.
Oh and one more thing Gabby's Mother disappeared (not die) because she could not see fea she could not protect Gabby. Did she remarry have more children(twins ) she cant protect them because she cant see the Fea like Gabby.
I might be rabbling but its things that make me go uhhhhhmmmm.
mac has said she can feel some one she cant see. Feth Fiada gift of invisiblity A SKILL of the god of other world so maybe the person or thing is of an other world or an old God.
going now befor head exsplodes:th_thud:

Cheryle
07-22-2007, 06:30 PM
I don't think we ever learned Mael's fate, I think it was implied that he was punished but we just don't know how.

You have given me more to consider. I never thought of Katherine O'Mally. I don't think the time line fits for her to have conceived JB or any other children but then stranger things have happend.

Now Gabby's mom on the other hand that is an interesting point. Any kids she has may or may not be Seerers, just because she can't doesn't mean she can not pass along, I like this idea very much.

*Jo*
07-23-2007, 10:23 AM
Thanks for the insight alba. Great questions to mull over ! :65:

Desire
08-01-2007, 02:12 PM
I agree with Cheryle concerning the timeline of Katie O'Mally conceiving a child with Dagues. Anyway remember he was using protetion. Remember when Chole was under his bed the first time she was at his penthouse. Right.

Katie O'Mally may have something to do with the bloodline of Chloe:33:

*Jo*
08-01-2007, 04:39 PM
Claudia i also forgot about Mael I do not remeber what happend to him if he did get punnished or not will have to look.
Going though the books again came across a name that might be of interest Dageus had an affair with an attorney called Katherine O,MALLY :th_thud:
IS she related to the O,mally in DF my guess is yes.
kind of out there but did she conceive a child by dageus??????
Another thing Queen ordered Adam to Heal Dageus he did not want to because he said it would cost him.may be some of his powers just like JB
Silvan and the Queen Renegotiated the terms of the compact he also gave his wedding ring (gold) to seal the pact.
Oh and one more thing Gabby's Mother disappeared (not die) because she could not see fea she could not protect Gabby. Did she remarry have more children(twins ) she cant protect them because she cant see the Fea like Gabby.
I might be rabbling but its things that make me go uhhhhhmmmm.
mac has said she can feel some one she cant see. Feth Fiada gift of invisiblity A SKILL of the god of other world so maybe the person or thing is of an other world or an old God.
going now befor head exsplodes:th_thud:
Dageus used MAGNUMS for the extra large man, no rings or funky colors, alba. In Immortal, it nevers says what punishment Mael receives only that Darroc named his accomplice...Do you WANT the page # ... YOU know that I have that on a teeny tiny piece of scrap paper with my POST IT notes...WINK
SOMEWHERE...

*Jo*
08-01-2007, 04:49 PM
remarried & had (1 or 2 daughters)& Gabby's step sister(s). Her mom SD, & SS(S) live in LOS ANGELES, California. WHERE else would she live than the CITY OF ANGELS, because she can't see fae. It seems to pass over ONE:65: generation at a time. I lost my paper on this but, It's near the beginning Of IMMORTAL.

Cheryle
08-01-2007, 05:22 PM
remarried & had (1 or 2 daughters)& Gabby's step sister(s). Her mom SD, & SS(S) live in LOS ANGELES, California. WHERE else would she live than the CITY OF ANGELS, because she can't see fae. It seems to pass over ONE:65: generation at a time. I lost my paper on this but, It's near the beginning Of IMMORTAL.


LOL I never caught that she lived in Los Angeles that is funny.