Secondary Characters...

[miss lulu]

Oh right, so we have been discussing the main players of the series, but what about the secondary characters?
(forgive me I don't have the book on me @ the moment)

Mac's dad: Mr. Lane
He was upset in the begin of the book when some old college friend called him up. He started to act different. And I believe this is after the news of Alina. So, could that phone call been from Mac's real relatives? And then there the fact that he recieved the photos of Alina's dead body in the alley. Mac saw this as being weird because why would they give a grieving father this photos to look at. And Mac had to ask for hers?

The old lady in the bar/museum. I think is she the one that has the key to unlock Mac's past. She also mentions the name Patrona? (don't have the book:crying-vi: so I don't know if this is the correct spelling)

Once, I get my hands on the book I'll add more that I can't remember at the moment!:52:

[claudia celestial girl]

wow - good thinking. BTW Patrona is her name.

Now some folks have claimed that the old lady is really Queen Abby in disguise. What do you think of that?

I haven't given any thought to Jack Lane, but I have thought a lot about Rainey Lane. They go from, like the happy, vacationing couple, to her being comatose - on medication and 'out of it' for most of the weeks that Mac is gone. Jack won't let Mac talk to her - with this goofy excuse about her being asleep. What's going on there?

I think that Mac's parents were warned, when they adopted the girls, not to let them go to Ireland (they are in Georgia to be isolated and protected). And first Alina went - Rainey must have forgotten or something. Then when she was killed - in that horrific manner, all the warnings came back to haunt them. Mac, being stubborn, when there on her own, and this is making them very nervous. But how much do they know? Do they know about the Fae? I have this idea that Frank comes to Dublin at some point and inserts himself into Mac's problems.

But I can't sort out what Jack's deal is with Rainey. Is he the one who has Rainey on medication? :15x-vi: :52:

[Cheryle]

OK so Lulu, I have never really thought much about Mac's dad but now that you bring it up, it is strange that he has those pictures because that is not a normal procedure at all to hand out crime scene photos.

I think that we will see Patrona again, that she is the key to getting Mac in touch with her bio family. I think she is significant. I do not think she is the queen in disguise, I think the queen would be to vain to pose as an old woman although you never know I might be surprised.

Claudia I can totally see Mac's dad coming to Ireland. I wonder how the meeting with JB would go LOL!

Wonderful Questions you to, you are keeping me on my toes, I am on pins and needles waiting for Bloodfever.

[claudia celestial girl]

I can totally see Mac's dad coming to Ireland. I wonder how the meeting with JB would go LOL!

Ha! I went to lunch just now, and all I could think about was imagining JB confronting Frank.

The more I think about it, the more controlling I think he probably is of everybody around him (just like JB). He probably spoiled his girls rotten, and JB might have something to say about that. LOL!

BTW - Don't you think "Patrona" and the old lady are two different people? The old lady might be named "Rowena" if one reads the teasers - where it says
Add to the mix Rowena, a powerful old woman who seems to know more about Mac's past than Mac does

And then 'Patrona' is someone who Rowena refers to - who might be Mac's bio mom.

[miss lulu]

BTW - Don't you think "Patrona" and the old lady are two different people? The old lady might be named "Rowena" if one reads the teasers - where it says

And then 'Patrona' is someone who Rowena refers to - who might be Mac's bio mom.

You're correct on this or at least I think.

Other character that is over looked some what is that aging old movie star face, Fiona. On page 165 JB tells her "I can find another to" -he paused a moment as if searching for precisely the right words-"serve my needs."
What serves do you think Fiona gives to JB (please don't let it be sex).:anim_furious-vi: I feel that should be reserved for Mac:anim_naughty-vi:.

Another thing on her, from what I hear about the booklet, is that Fiona tries to get Mac arrested, and leaves a window open to get Mac in trouble?
I may be wrong in this. Feel free to correct me.

And on page 166, Fiona all but declares her undeading love to JB, but he does not return it. And he somehow makes Fiona promise to keep her peace. But how long will the spell he casted last on her, if she start making troble for Mac in Bloodfever?

[claudia celestial girl]

what I hear about the booklet, is that Fiona tries to get Mac arrested, and leaves a window open to get Mac in trouble ... she start making troble for Mac in Bloodfever?

Your question is at the core of some of the discussions we have been having at the Bloodfever Thread.

So stop here, because the rest of what I have to say is a ****spoiler****

OK. Still with me. Well then. All we know in the first three chapters of BF is that the window is open, and yes, the Shades get in. And we all want to know WHO opened the window? Was it the old biddy, Fio? Some people say yes. She has motive. But who is there to rescue Mac from the Shades? Why V'Lane, of course. And it's just a little too convenient that V'Lane shows up just at the right time. And he's happy to rescue Mac in exchange for a few favors. OK, well really just one big favor. So the question of who opened the window, and for what reason, is still out there. The whole episode has spawned a few threads on the BF board. My question is related to this - no matter who opened the window, V'Lane's actions constitute sexual harassment, and, if you were Mac, would you choose V'Lane, or a Shade if you had to die in that scenario? I pose this qustion to you also, Miss LuLu... :anim_naughty-vi: What would be your response? would it be different if it turned out that it was V'Lane who opened the window? :th_thud:

[Angela]

Other character that is over looked some what is that aging old movie star face, Fiona. On page 165 JB tells her "I can find another to" -he paused a moment as if searching for precisely the right words-"serve my needs."
What serves do you think Fiona gives to JB (please don't let it be sex).:anim_furious-vi: I feel that should be reserved for Mac:anim_naughty-vi:.



I now with all the Vampire talk, I imagine that while his voice pauses, he is drawing him tongue along her neck across her angry pulsing vain.

Shiver!

I hope the Mac's dad is not part of it. But I wondered when he kept putting off the talk with her mom. And the photos? did they come from the Garde or were they from another source.Oh, please don't let him be a bad guy. Maybe they took them from Ireland? Oh, now I just don't like that thought.

[Cheryle]

And on page 166, Fiona all but declares her undeading love to JB, but he does not return it. And he somehow makes Fiona promise to keep her peace. But how long will the spell he casted last on her, if she start making troble for Mac in Bloodfever?

I just don't know about Fiona, I wonder if maybe she is playing two sides of the coin working for JB and possibly V'Lane. What do some of you think of that, it is something that just popped in my head I am not sure how I feel about it right now.

[claudia celestial girl]

I just don't know about Fiona, I wonder if maybe she is playing two sides of the coin working for JB and possibly V'Lane. What do some of you think of that, it is something that just popped in my head I am not sure how I feel about it right now.
I"m not sure she can see the Fae. When Mac asked her that question she equivocated, remember?

[Cheryle]

I"m not sure she can see the Fae. When Mac asked her that question she equivocated, remember?

You are right but a fae can show himself to a specific human if I am right, Adam does so in Beyond the Highland Mist when he takes the form of the Blacksmith.

Oh and thanks for the new word to my vocabulary, I like it equivocated.

[Kelli Jo]

I do think that he is keeping Rainey medicated, but I'm not certain there is anything sinister in it (I hope not at least). I refuse to see Rainey as a fluff ball, and as I see it, if I lost one kid in Ireland then the other one took off too, you bet your a** I'd be on a plane on my way there to drag her back. It could be that Mac's dad is keeping her medicated to stop her from doing something foolish (especially if they have some idea of what is going on over there). On that note, I agree that eventually he is going to find his way onto a plane and try to do just that....try to force Mac to return home....and whoa the fireworks that would happen over THAT little tug of war between Mr. Lane and JB! :anim_furious-vi:

[miss lulu]

What other characters do you think are going to start to have a bigger role in the books?

I for one think well see more of McCabe (who I think is a werewolf). Read the bottom of page 124.

[Cheryle]

I think we will definatley see more of Rowena, she holds a specific key to Mac's true identity.

[claudia celestial girl]

What other characters do you think are going to start to have a bigger role in the books?

I for one think well see more of McCabe (who I think is a werewolf). Read the bottom of page 124.
I predicted (Cheryle can verify) that we would see more of Inspector O'Duffy. I liked that comment that the receptionist made to Mac: "Our Patty's a good cop." The teasers bear me out. I'm not going to say anything about the booklet.

The teasers also mention son-of-OBannion. (That ought to be interesting).

I'm not sure I"m onboard with McCabe is a were-wolf idea, but a clever author does not introduce interesting characters and then throw them away, so I think you're right. McCabe will be back, looking for Fae artifacts. There's no reason to believe he'll have given that search up.

BTW - the bottom of page 124 is the marker for the moon. I used that quote to search the book for a timeline to see what the characters were doing on the 'full moon' and thereafter. I didn't find any correlation between the full moon and JB appearances.

I"m wondering, if Mac goes to jail, as the teasers suggest, that she runs into some O'Connors on the police force and learns a bit more about herself. Of course we'll be seeing more of the Old Lady.

I also have the feeling that Cian (from Spell of the Highlander) - a Druid who is out partying with his bride in pubs all over Scotland, will run into some Unseelie in a pub and suddenly realize that the fabric of the worlds is coming apart.

[Cheryle]

If I remember correctly from a Teaser sent out by KMM the reason Mac goes to jail is the the Inspector is Murdered and she is his last appointment in his book and last person to see him alive. I could be wrong but that is what I think.

[Kelli Jo]

I'm starting a new thread about that teaser, Cheryle, because that was a LOOONG time ago (I can't even believe you remember, wow)! I had forgotten all about it!:47:

[Cheryle]

I'm starting a new thread about that teaser, Cheryle, because that was a LOOONG time ago (I can't even believe you remember, wow)! I had forgotten all about it!:47:

Kelli Jo :you_rock:

[Kelli Jo]

:anim_bow-vi:

[claudia celestial girl]

If I remember correctly from a Teaser sent out by KMM the reason Mac goes to jail is the the Inspector is Murdered and she is his last appointment in his book and last person to see him alive. I could be wrong but that is what I think.
****spoiler*****

I don't want to say too much about the Inspector, because this is not the BF board, but I think he plays a key role because, before he is murdered he figures out a lot of stuff - stuff that he potentially leaves behind for other members of the police force to find. That's my prediction.

Besides which, the scene where we next see the Inspector is a Great Scene! I love his interaction with Mac at that point.

[claudia celestial girl]

I think Alina's notes will make Alina seem alive, and as if she were a secondary player as well. Alina was a scholar who wrote everything down as she discovered things. I'm guessing that as this story progresses, Alina's discoveries will be very important, and everybody will be wanting to get their hands on those journals.

[Kelli Jo]

I TOTALLY agree with you here, Claudia! Alina's journal is going to be a treasure trove of information and EVERYONE is going to want it!

[Cheryle]

Yes and I am dying to know how she found out about the Lord Master.

[deannalynnc]

Mr. Lane: I think that he loves his wife very much and I think he also loves his daughters. I do think that he and Rainey know more about the girls then we know, he was just way to urgent about Mac coming home and forgetting everything in Ireland. I do not believe for a moment that he would do anything to his wife, including drug her. I believe he didn't let Mac talk to her mother because he didn't want her to get even more upset since she is already falling apart.

Mrs. Lane: I think that she is falling apart for letting Alina go to Ireland even after the warning she got when she adopted the girls. I think that maybe when Alina asked to leave for study her Mother thought that so much time had passed that maybe she was ok to head out on her own and now she is feeling grief for letting her daughter go when she ended up dying.

The older lady: I think she will def be in the future books. She knows too much to not be!

Fiona: Well I'm not really sure how to feel about her. She is around 50 right? Barrons is like 30...so go girl on that, except I'm really not a huge fan of that big of an age gap whether it is in a book or not. With that being said I don't think that she would turn her back on Barrons but I don't trust her with Mac...that whole jealousy thing.

V'lane: Good or bad??!! Seems pretty darn bad to me right now, but everyone is talking about him as if he might turn good...although since I just finished the first book I really don't want to know!

Malluce: Did Barrons kill him during their fight at the end or will he be back? He seems to be playing on a very thin line by trying to take advantage of the Fae side to try to personally gain...that will be intersting!