Malluce-Barrons connection

[Shewolfe]

I'm re reading DarkFever for the umpteenth time and can't get over the part where Mac meets Malluce the first time at his Gothden with Barrons. She says something along the lines of: 'As I looked back & forth between Malluce and Barrons there was something I just couldn't put my finger on...'

Has anyone noticed this is almost exactly what Jessi thinks about Dageus and Cian in Spell of the Highlander right before they find out they're kin?!

Does anyone think there could be more of a connection between Malluce and Barrons than revealed as yet?

Thoughts, anyone?

[BlueCoyote]

no cant say that that crossed my mind....
it would have been mentioned if Maluce had a brother.... he would have tried to kill him too, right?
man i hope they're not related!!!

[feverfan]

You know I've read and re-read that scene many times and I hope they aren't related **heebie jeebie shivers**. I couldn't really put my finger on it but that scene kind of snags me every time I read through like it's going to be important later or something...

[bap7249]

Wasn't it jb who told Mac not to be so sure about Malluce being a vamp, like he knew more about him than he was letting on...bap

[TXIrish]

Wasn't it jb who told Mac not to be so sure about Malluce being a vamp, like he knew more about him than he was letting on...bap
JB didn't tell Mac that it was bogus until he had ripped his head off. In other words, he looked to see if the fangs were real, and found they weren't. :wno:

I had wondered if what she sensed was the Unseelie inside of Malluce (literally) and the dark side of JZB as being similar. The more I think about it, the more I think he's a Druid/Sorcerer that's spent a little too much time walking on the Dark Side. :skeptical: The protection tattoos are what are driving that train of thought, especially since I'm re-reading Cian's story again. :jiggy: There's a bit too many similarities there. Hmm, now I wonder, is there a kin-tie between JZB and Cian? :2v-vi:

[BlueCoyote]

Wasn't it jb who told Mac not to be so sure about Malluce being a vamp, like he knew more about him than he was letting on...bap

i remember he mentioned that when they went to Maluce's place the first time. he was skeptical and cynical and just thought it was a joke.

later on he ripped his head and confirmed his suspicion lol

[Caro]

I noticed this passage several times too -- Barrons is the "real" vampire, Malluce the fake. Perhaps. :)

[Shewolfe]

JB didn't tell Mac that it was bogus until he had ripped his head off. In other words, he looked to see if the fangs were real, and found they weren't. :wno:

LOL I can just imagine his through process: "I wonder if those are real... I'll just rip his head off and find out."

[Southern Faerie]

ripping a Vamp's head off is the only real way to kill them. Didn't Barrons say that vampires are really hard to kill?

BTW - just how did Barrons "rip" Malluce's head off? Mac certainly never saw how he did it, just that he did. What extraordinary strength it would have taken to decapitate someone, uh? :skeptical: Not sure what to think about Barrons.

[TXIrish]

ripping a Vamp's head off is the only real way to kill them. Didn't Barrons say that vampires are really hard to kill?

BTW - just how did Barrons "rip" Malluce's head off? Mac certainly never saw how he did it, just that he did. What extraordinary strength it would have taken to decapitate someone, uh? :skeptical: Not sure what to think about Barrons.

Hmmm, kinda supports the Beserker theory, doesn't it? That would mean he was a Druid-Sorcerer Beserker. :47: OMG wouldn't THAT be too much to believe? :anim_naughty-vi:

[mollie]

I was thinking perhaps she was picking up on whatever was part of their essence from walking on the dark side. That's what i attributed to the Dageus/Cian thing too. They're both very powerful and have that slight edge from the dark magik. Maybe the same is true of Barrons/Malluce. That little hint of something from the dark stuff - with Malluce it was unseelie, with barrons whatever dark magiks he needed the tattoos for? Just an idea.

[Dione]

I don't have my book with me but that is also when Mac says something like she didn't know it at the time but that JZB has more of a bargaining chip with Malluce than just his finances. :skeptical:

[shannan]

no cant say that that crossed my mind....
it would have been mentioned if Maluce had a brother.... he would have tried to kill him too, right?
man i hope they're not related!!!

man you are sooo not lying... cant see the vamp thing although it would make sense with his vanishing during the day and the basement but just doesnt feel right... this guy is a demigod/fae prince/sorcerer/druid/ hero/ king not a vampire!!!!!:shocked:

[mommaj]

You tell em, Shannan! I can't quite believe JB is a vampire...that is just too tame for him! Man....I am getting the urge to re-read the series....just TOO much time until September!!!! *grumble, grumble, grumble!

[irelandcastillo]

i dont think JZB is a vampire either. he is an original!

[Shewolfe]

I don't think Barrons is a vampire either, but it was proven in the end of BF that Malluce was not a real vampire, just some spoiled rich kid amped up on Rhino Boy.

So, it does stand to reason there could be some sort of connection between them. I guess we shall see once Shadowfever's published! ARGH! :sad1:

[bunnyeyed]

I noticed this passage several times too -- Barrons is the "real" vampire, Malluce the fake. Perhaps. :)
I second that one, sister. He knows that it's hard to kill them, because he's infected with vamp...the other threads list the multitude of reasons why he may be a vamp, but I thought the Malluce thing was the strongest---JZB said to hope Malluce was not a real vampire because they're nearly impossible to kill...why would he know that? The culmination of evidence, IMHO, is before Malluce's beheading. When he lolled her head to the side I do believe he was going to turn Mac and that was his alternative when she almost died...why he had to tell her that "this isn't what I (JZB) wanted...This isn't what I would have chosen. You (Mac) must know that. It's important that you know that." Then the sense that "kernel of something gnawing in the back of my mind. Something I needed to think about. A choice to be made."
Remember, JZB even licked Mac's vein the first night he went to the Clarin House to talk to her (DF).

[dawnab19]

I dunno I hope not though. I dont really like the idea of them being related

[BlueCoyote]

I dunno I hope not though. I dont really like the idea of them being related

i dont like the idea of JZB being the living dead, a.. human tick even.. ewww

sorry never have liked the idea of vampires. simply cant find them sexy or appealing.

[Alex Holbrook]

Hmmm, kinda supports the Beserker theory, doesn't it? That would mean he was a Druid-Sorcerer Beserker. :47: OMG wouldn't THAT be too much to believe? :anim_naughty-vi:

OK...I already wanted to jump his bones, now I want to...to...I can't say...this is a PG13 board...darn it!

[kris]

What is the connection between these two? Or is there one? In the scene at Malluce's Mac says that is the more dangerous one, and that there was something about that meeting and that she was too stupid to see it until it was too late, or something to that effect, I don't have my book with me right now. And that JZB went in with the assurance that nothing would happen to him and it wasn't because he froze his money. this has been nagging at me for awhile now and I didn't see any other posts about it, sorry if there is already one! Sorry I don't have any cool pictures and stuff I don't have a clue how to do that.

[Surfie]

Darn it, one more thing for me to go crazy thinking about. Argh! I notice these things at the time and wonder about them, but usually forget later on when the answer isn't forthcoming. I have only read the first two (I prefer paperbacks, so I have to wait till NEXT year to read FF unless I borrow it from the library), and I'm pulling my hair out knowing that I have 3 more books to go before I'll get my answers. It's a love-hate relationship, for sure!

[KJTVH]

What is the connection between these two? Or is there one? In the scene at Malluce's Mac says that is the more dangerous one, and that there was something about that meeting and that she was too stupid to see it until it was too late, or something to that effect, I don't have my book with me right now. And that JZB went in with the assurance that nothing would happen to him and it wasn't because he froze his money. this has been nagging at me for awhile now and I didn't see any other posts about it, sorry if there is already one! Sorry I don't have any cool pictures and stuff I don't have a clue how to do that.

I don't think there is a connection. I think JZB was just assured that he was more powerful (and dangerous) than Malluce, and he possibly knows that Malluce can't harm him, whatever JZB is! I have an idea on the rest, but since this is the Darkfever forum, don't want to give away anything from the other books!

KJ