Are the Fae from Hell/Hades?

[Vahista]

Geeze....Thought of the Unseelie Princes right away like you~
I thought they were empty, voids...

Yes, but isn't this memory about a Seelie Princess?

[Justine]

Yes, but isn't this memory about a Seelie Princess?

Yes - it is from inside Barrons head -
His memory of when he was in Faery with the Seelie Princess = V'Lane's Princess.

Barrons describes the Seelie Pincess as empty
Barrons says that he himself was was full

When Mac is turned Priya - she says she tasted the emptiness within them - The three Unseelie Princes
So the Unseelie Princes are Empty.
The forth felt strange - not the same as the Unseelie Princes.
Mac says that the more the Unseelie princes fill her the emptier she is.
When Mac becomes Pri-ya - she describes it as an endless emptiness.

To Pri-ya Mac Dani is other than empty.
To Pr-iya Mac Barrons is what will fill all that is empty.
The flesh recognizes its own.

I was going somewhere with this - Dang it all -
Had a brain fart -

[happygirlie]

Yes - it is from inside Barrons head -
His memory of when he was in Faery with the Seelie Princess = V'Lane's Princess.

Barrons describes the Seelie Pincess as empty
Barrons says that he himself was was full

When Mac is turned Priya - she says she tasted the emptiness within them - The three Unseelie Princes
So the Unseelie Princes are Empty.
The forth felt strange - not the same as the Unseelie Princes.
Mac says that the more the Unseelie princes fill her the emptier she is.
When Mac becomes Pri-ya - she describes it as an endless emptiness.

To Pri-ya Mac Dani is other than empty.
To Pr-iya Mac Barrons is what will fill all that is empty.
The flesh recognizes its own.

I was going somewhere with this - Dang it all -
Had a brain fart -

I'm following you - brain fart or not!

To continue this, if we follow the info we have been given, we know from Mac that the unseelie are 'empty' and we know from Barrons that the seelie are also 'empty', we also learn from Darroc:

His new form felt more than mere need. The ennui and dispassion of immortality began to melt away. The fear of death awakened unexpected facets of his nature. Emotion stirred in him sensations that being Fae never had and never could.

The emptiness does not appear to be caused by longevity, because Barrons is also ancient. Therefore, it would seem to be a fae trait rather than a seelie/unseelie trait. Therefore, following that logic, Barrons is not fae. Or at least not TDD.

[Vahista]

I'm following you - brain fart or not!

To continue this, if we follow the info we have been given, we know from Mac that the unseelie are 'empty' and we know from Barrons that the seelie are also 'empty', we also learn from Darroc:



The emptiness does not appear to be caused by longevity, because Barrons is also ancient. Therefore, it would seem to be a fae trait rather than a seelie/unseelie trait. Therefore, following that logic, Barrons is not fae. Or at least not TDD.

Agreed! :)

[Justine]

I'm following you - brain fart or not!

To continue this, if we follow the info we have been given, we know from Mac that the unseelie are 'empty' and we know from Barrons that the seelie are also 'empty', we also learn from Darroc:



The emptiness does not appear to be caused by longevity, because Barrons is also ancient. Therefore, it would seem to be a fae trait rather than a seelie/unseelie trait. Therefore, following that logic, Barrons is not fae. Or at least not TDD.

Yes - Yes - Yes !!!
Thank you I knew there was a path started - I just fell off of it.

Ohhh - the Darroc POV - excellent.

Do we have one from Adam?????
Dang it all - fell off the path again -
it's just too close to Barrons and the de-Pri-ya-fication -
All of that MALE just distracts me.

How did Karen ever handle writing it all down -

[happygirlie]

Yes - Yes - Yes !!!
Thank you I knew there was a path started - I just fell off of it.

Ohhh - the Darroc POV - excellent.

Do we have one from Adam?????
Dang it all - fell off the path again -
it's just too close to Barrons and the de-Pri-ya-fication -
All of that MALE just distracts me.

How did Karen ever handle writing it all down -

Hmmm, maybe we need to test all of their levels of 'emptiness', you know, for comparison?

Purely scientific.

[*Jo*]

So just throwing out a thought I had when reading this: Fae don't have souls, but if, when they die, they pass over to the human realm as babies, then they would gain a soul, right? I know completely off topic, but my mind is so tired tonight.

Yes.
If these babies are baptized, their souls return to God upon death.
If they are not baptized thus still having original sin, they pass to ... Limbo.

http://traditionalromancatholicism.o...sedbabies.html

[*Jo*]

Yes - Yes - Yes !!!
Thank you I knew there was a path started - I just fell off of it.

Ohhh - the Darroc POV - excellent.

Do we have one from Adam?????
Dang it all - fell off the path again -
it's just too close to Barrons and the de-Pri-ya-fication -
All of that MALE just distracts me.

How did Karen ever handle writing it all down -

But, but, but~
Adam is only half TDD to be able to reside in QA's court~
His mother had to have been a princess or queen at one time,
His father had to have been a prince or King of the Daoine Court~

Which would make Adam an exception to the TDD Seelie rule. Perhaps that was one of the reasons he was
considered 'a fool'. Halfbreed.

[Justine]

But, but, but~
Adam is only half TDD to be able to reside in QA's court~
His mother had to have been a princess or queen at one time,
His father had to have been a prince or King of the Daoine Court~

Which would make Adam an exception to the TDD Seelie rule. Perhaps that was one of the reasons he was
considered 'a fool'. Halfbreed.

I was wondering if we had any comments from Adam -
you know after he was "human" as to whether he felt - Full or Empty.
Giggles - Who wants to volunteer to go ask him ?????

[aprilssix]

Originally Posted by smi492
So just throwing out a thought I had when reading this: Fae don't have souls, but if, when they die, they pass over to the human realm as babies, then they would gain a soul, right? I know completely off topic, but my mind is so tired tonight.

Didn't QA say once that she threatened a souless death to one of her Fae, or something like that? Then she would know about a fae dying and entering a human realm to possibly get a soul. Did the princess Barrons killed do that?

And didn't Barrons make the remark abiout the fools not even reconizing him, That they drank from the cup to forget as if that radicated ther sins.

Is this part of why they drink to forget? To keep on existing so they don't die and pass into a human realm to possibly gain a human soul to be judged on thier sins when thier human body with thie new soul dies?

Macs remark about an only good Fae is a dead fae, because if they die and pass on to earth realm, gain a soul, they will be judged on their sind when they die!!

Yes.
If these babies are baptized, their souls return to God upon death.
If they are not baptized thus still having original sin, they pass to ... Limbo.

http://traditionalromancatholicism.o...sedbabies.html

So since the OQ died without passing on the SOM to a sucessor, could she have been passed into the human realm as a baby? With a soul? Would her Fae-ness still be within the child would would become? Maybe makeing the child not fully human? But still a "Queen in her own right"?

And which human realm would they be passed on to? Our human earth or Concubines human world? Maybe thats why UK wanted his concubine so bad, she was the dead fae Queen passed to human realm, (concubines world) the one he killed and he wanted to remake the SOM to make her queen again...

Which brings ne too this. It kind of goes with what i posted on Justine's post in another thread.

If QA is no longer, would she pass on into a human realm as a baby? Would she retain the memories of her Queen rein? Would she pass on to the baby she now is, any of her Fae-ness or powers she has as Queen?

Who would she be????