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    Question SPOILER! From Bloodfever Booklet.

    Has anyone notice that JB has a middle intial? "Z" And/or that he was born "Oct. 31" Halloween? Mac laughes at this. But should she?

    Why would JB choose to have his birthday on Halloween, if he did choose it.


    Halloween is popular in Ireland, where it is said to have originated, and is known in Irish as "OŪche Shamhna" or "Samhain Night". Pre-Christian Celts had an autumn festival, Samhain(pronounced /ˈsˠaunʲ/from the Old Irish samain), "End of Summer", a pastoral and agricultural "fire festival" or feast, when the dead revisited the mortal world, and large communal bonfires would hence be lit to ward off evil spirits. (See Origin: Celtic observation of Samhain below). It is alleged that the Irish continued to practice their deep-rooted, ancient pagan rites well after the arrival of Christianity in the mid sixth century[citation needed].

    Pope Gregory IV standardized the date of All Saints' Day, or All Hallows' Day, on November 1 in the name of the entire Western Church in 835. As it now began at sunset, the holiday coincided exactly with Samhain. Although there is no official documentation that Gregory had Samhain in mind when selecting this date, it seems consistent with the common practice of leaving pagan festivals and buildings intact (e.g., the Pantheon), while overlaying a Christian meaning.[2] While Celts might have been content to move All Saints' Day from the previous date of April 20th, ("...the Fe-lire of Oengus and the Martyrology of Tallaght prove that the early medieval churches celebrated the feast of All Saints upon 20 April.")[3] they were unwilling to give up their pre-existing April festival of the dead and continued to celebrate Samhain[citation needed].

    Unfortunately, there is frustratingly little primary documentation of how Halloween was celebrated in pre-industrial Ireland. Historian Nicholas Rogers has written:

    It is not always easy to track the development of Halloween in Ireland and Scotland from the mid-seventeenth century, largely because one has to trace ritual practices from [modern] folkloric evidence that do not necessarily reflect how the holiday might have changed; these rituals may not be "authentic" or "timeless" examples of pre-industrial times.[4]

    All info from wikipedia. So any thoughts? What can he's middle name be? Zeus? LOL
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheryle View Post
    LuLu I can see what I can do!
    Thanks!!! Nice pic btw!


    Dreamfever I think will have to do with the dream world people go when they sleep. Like in the story of Jane and Aedan. In the booklet KMM mentions something about this with Mac and her dreams.

    I feel that the dark figure is somehow connect to this as well. That maybe the dark figure is unable to hurt her until she fully awakens her memory on her past, which she has blocked out. And her dreams are the key to this.

    Any thoughts?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss lulu View Post
    Thanks!!! Nice pic btw!


    Dreamfever I think will have to do with the dream world people go when they sleep. Like in the story of Jane and Aedan. In the booklet KMM mentions something about this with Mac and her dreams.

    I feel that the dark figure is somehow connect to this as well. That maybe the dark figure is unable to hurt her until she fully awakens her memory on her past, which she has blocked out. And her dreams are the key to this.

    Any thoughts?

    I would have to agree with you there. If Mac is pretending like she does not see this she may only be able to acknowledge this in her dreams. Only time will tell how significant this Dark Figure is.

    Plus I think maybe we will see Alina in her dreams and she will help Mac in some way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Cheryle View Post
    I would have to agree with you there. If Mac is pretending like she does not see this she may only be able to acknowledge this in her dreams. Only time will tell how significant this Dark Figure is.

    Plus I think maybe we will see Alina in her dreams and she will help Mac in some way.
    That can be a very interesting event! But I think the Queen A is going to have a part in this as well. She is the one who arranged for Jane & Aedan, right?

    Or.......maybe the unseelie king himself?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss lulu View Post
    Thanks!!! Nice pic btw!


    Dreamfever I think will have to do with the dream world people go when they sleep. Like in the story of Jane and Aedan. In the booklet KMM mentions something about this with Mac and her dreams.

    I feel that the dark figure is somehow connect to this as well. That maybe the dark figure is unable to hurt her until she fully awakens her memory on her past, which she has blocked out. And her dreams are the key to this.

    Any thoughts?
    Very interesting theory!

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss lulu View Post
    Thanks!!! Nice pic btw!


    Dreamfever I think will have to do with the dream world people go when they sleep. Like in the story of Jane and Aedan. In the booklet KMM mentions something about this with Mac and her dreams.

    I feel that the dark figure is somehow connect to this as well. That maybe the dark figure is unable to hurt her until she fully awakens her memory on her past, which she has blocked out. And her dreams are the key to this.

    Any thoughts?
    I think we'll find out who that Patrona is that the old lady mentioned. If Patrona's her mum, I think, basing myself on your theory of what Dreamfever will be about, that Mac will remember how/why she was given up for adoption. I think Mac's adoptive parents knew exactly what she and Alina were when they adopted the sisters. That's why Mac thinks of herself as 'provincial'... because her 'parents' never wanted the sisters to know what they are... especially if this Patrona is a powerful sidhe-seer like the old lady made her out to be and they're her (only?) descendants. I think they were given away to protect them.

    Think Patrona's still alive? Think Mac will meet her and talk to her at last (in some shape or form... maybe it's Patrona's ghost Mac saw in Bloodfever.Basing myself on what people have said, it seems Mac recognises the shape but can't place it? Fits in with my theory, I think)? I think we'll find out soon enough... possibly in Dreamfever.

    Now that's something to mull over! Ah I love speculation!


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    Ohhh! Interesting theory again!

    I think Mac's adoptive parents knew exactly what she and Alina were when they adopted the sisters. .... I think they were given away to protect them.
    Yeah - I'm with you on that.

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    Quote Originally Posted by stormsandsins View Post
    I think we'll find out who that Patrona is that the old lady mentioned. If Patrona's her mum, I think, basing myself on your theory of what Dreamfever will be about, that Mac will remember how/why she was given up for adoption. I think Mac's adoptive parents knew exactly what she and Alina were when they adopted the sisters. That's why Mac thinks of herself as 'provincial'... because her 'parents' never wanted the sisters to know what they are... especially if this Patrona is a powerful sidhe-seer like the old lady made her out to be and they're her (only?) descendants. I think they were given away to protect them.

    Think Patrona's still alive? Think Mac will meet her and talk to her at last (in some shape or form... maybe it's Patrona's ghost Mac saw in Bloodfever.Basing myself on what people have said, it seems Mac recognises the shape but can't place it? Fits in with my theory, I think)? I think we'll find out soon enough... possibly in Dreamfever.

    Now that's something to mull over! Ah I love speculation!
    On another thread, I believe I started, I mention that her dad received a phone call from an old college friend that seem to upset him somewhat more than the death of his daugther. (please forgive I do not have the book at this moment DF) What could this be?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss lulu View Post
    On another thread, I believe I started, I mention that her dad received a phone call from an old college friend that seem to upset him somewhat more than the death of his daugther. (please forgive I do not have the book at this moment DF) What could this be?
    Lemme think... Wasn't that friend someone from the US government?

    So what if that friend worked in a department of paranormal occurences? And somehow knows what happened and convinced him that there was nothing they could do... if only because they couldn't see Fae and because no one, especially the Gardai, would believe them. Or maybe they (gov) keep track of sidhe-seers, and they only recognised that nothing 'normal' could have caused Alina's death. The latter seems more plausible to me. Thoughts?
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    Quote Originally Posted by stormsandsins View Post
    Lemme think... Wasn't that friend someone from the US government?

    So what if that friend worked in a department of paranormal occurences?

    ... ohmygod I didn't just think of this...
    I really don't know cause I don't have the book on me at the moment, but maybe the dad was just lying to her to keep her safe.

    I also think that her parents only know so much about them. Like when they let Alina go to Ireland, they maybe did not know this was the place they came from?

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    Quote Originally Posted by miss lulu View Post
    I really don't know cause I don't have the book on me at the moment, but maybe the dad was just lying to her to keep her safe.

    I also think that her parents only know so much about them. Like when they let Alina go to Ireland, they maybe did not know this was the place they came from?
    Okay, so maybe they hoped she wouldn't have turned out like her mum? Like it had skipped generations? Then they found out it hadn't when she was killed, and then tried to prevent the same from happening to Mac...

    Hmm... By the way it's really fun to speculate with you, miss lulu :D

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